इस पोस्ट को अवश्य पढे
महिलाएँ कतई देवियाँ नहीं, वे तो अभी बराबर का हक मांग रही हैं
और फिर इस पोस्ट
अब ऐसी मानसिकता को क्या कहेंगे????
पर आए कमेन्ट भी पढे । पढे की किस भाषा का प्रयोग कर रहे हैं हिन्दी के ब्लॉगर सह ब्लॉगर के लिये क्युकी वोह महिला हैं । क्यों महिला के साथ विचार विमर्श महिला के शरीर और महिला की सुन्दरता पर ही आकर ख़तम होता हैं । अगर किसी के पास जवाब हो तो बताये ।
वे समझते हैं कि.... नारी सिर्फ भोग्या है, संपत्ति है। कम्बख्त बोलती है और प्रतिरोध भी करती है।
ReplyDeleteनारी और सुन्दरता वास्तव में काफ़ी हद तक साथ-साथ चलते हैं. लेकिन इस औद्योगिक काल में नारियों को विज्ञापनों में सुन्दरता का "प्रतीक" बनने से ही इन्कार कर देना चाहिए. न रहेगा बांस, न बजेगी बांसुरी.
ReplyDeleteमहिला के शरीर और महिला की सुन्दरता किसी विचार विमर्श का विषय न हो सकते हैं और न बनने चाहिए. विज्ञापनों में जो हो रहा वह ग़लत है उसे रोका जाना चाहिए.
ReplyDeleteसुरेश जी विज्ञापनों को रोका जाना संभव नहीं हैं. इस ब्लोग की ब्लोगर भले ही कहती हों पुरुष प्रधान समाज है किन्तु अब हम उद्योग प्रधान समाज की और बढ रहे हैं. सरोगेट मदर के रूप में नारी की कोख भी बिक्री की चीज बन गयी है. आदर्श की बात अलग है मुझे नहीं लगता नारी को कभी भी सुन्दरता से अलग कर पायेंगे. केवल ब्लोगिंग करने से कुछ नहीं होता क्या आप दावे के साथ कह सकते हैं कि सुन्दरता को सिरे से नजर अन्दाज किया जा सकता है.मुझे लगता है बुद्धिजीवी भी इससे बच नहीं पाते न नर व न नारी.
ReplyDeleteyou are trying to get only one reason which is desired by you- blame a man. sorry to there are atleast two reasons behind this phenomon
ReplyDelete1- nature has made man and woman so. if you have the time to observe the nature males are supposed to make advances before females for the courtship or mating. females have been givent the option to accept or reject the proposal. by giving the power to accept or reject the male proposal for courtship to females the nature has made males beautiful. you may see peacock, cock and other birds lion and other animals. they have to please the females with there beauty and actions. this is the instinct that compells the males of human breed
2- it is a bitter truth that FEMALES WISH TO BE AN OBJECT OF DESIRE. thats why they so much make up, dresses expose there body and they are pleased when they know that they are admired and mind due to there LOOKS only. if you read the agony columns of female magazines no girl asks that what should i do to become mother teressa, lata mangeshkar, sarojini naidu, indira gandhi, kiran bedi, p.t. usha, kishori amonkar, subba laxmi, etc. etc. every girl is concerned with looks and only looks thats why they are worried about piples, complextion, figure, bust, waist hips only. if it is not so then fairness creams do not get such market. just go to the market if 1-2 girls purchase curren affairs magagines 98 will be busy with cosmetics, beuti parlour. how many ladies prefer tv programmes of national importance than saas-bahu type serials? how many ladies tells to other ladies about mental abilities/intellect of their daughter-in-laws as they tells about their daughter-in-law's beauty with much pride? actually every lady has a deep rooted desire of appriciation based on her physical appreances in their sub conscious mind.
IF IT IS NOT SO HOW MANY LADIES WHO ARE BLOGGER (WHICH TELLS THAT ATLEAST THE ARE INTELLECTUAL) ARE READY TO DISCARD COSMETICS AND EXPOSING DRESSES?
I HOPE YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO PUBLISH THIS LETTER AS IT IS.
alex
ReplyDeletethis post has nothing to do with what you are saying so i am not answering those things
this post has been written with 2 links and on both these links in comment section there is foul lanuage used for woman and they are being targeted on the physical terms
my simple question is " why when ever there is a discussion that involes a man and a woman , it ends up in using foul language on womans body "
i hope in future instead of being baised towards woman bloggers that they are writng agains man , you will read more carefully and then comment
your comment shows bais is more in your mind then in our writngs
@" why when ever there is a discussion that involves a man and a woman , it ends up in using foul language on woman's body ".
ReplyDeleteयह ग़लत है, ऐसा नही होना चाहिए. विचार-विमर्श तभी सार्थक है जब परस्पर सम्मान की भावना हो. राय अलग हो सकती है पर अपशब्द प्रयोग करना ग़लत है.
राष्ट्रप्रेमी जी विज्ञापनों को रोका जाना संभव नहीं हैं पर उस में जो हो रहा उसे रोका जाना जरूरी है. जिस उत्पाद के विज्ञापन में नारी का अपमान हो सब मिल कर उस उत्पाद का वहिष्कार करें.
ReplyDelete@" why when ever there is a discussion that involves a man and a woman , it ends up in using foul language on woman's body ".
ReplyDeleteयह ग़लत है, ऐसा नही होना चाहिए. विचार-विमर्श तभी सार्थक है जब परस्पर सम्मान की भावना हो. राय अलग हो सकती है पर अपशब्द प्रयोग करना ग़लत है.
please go on given links and say this there also you people always try to see bais in writngs on these blogs but you people never go and say a single word to any blogger who is using foul language for womans body why ??
rachnA
ReplyDeletethanks you have read my response sorry to say that there is not the question of being biased at all and this discussion is on a matter which is about the body of females. so you must have to understand the scope of the discussion. if you read my words carefully WITHOUT THE MIND WHICH IS BIASED AGAINST MEN you will find foul language nowhere. i guess you may have objections about the words which have been used in respect of animal word in that case my humble suggestion is that you must read the scientific books written by authors who dont belong to hte indian catagory on animal behaviour and instincts. you will find that these terms are used to understand the behaviour and pattern of the trait and instinct that the human have inherited from animal worlds. i have not written a single word against the dignity of the hon'ble ladies. you must be unbiased against the wrirings of males. without understanding the psychological, physiological, biological, hormonal, social, traits, differences, causes you just can not understand the causes and the reasons of any behaviour if you really want to understand any problem in its real terms otherwise if your have made your sole and the only object for this type agitation just to blame men for all the probles it is only the ostrich policy which will not serve any positive action towards the redressal of the main problem problem but it will certainly serve your object of blaming the men.
if you observe the men and women around society you will be copelled to accept the BITTER TRUTH YES BITTER TRUTH AGAINST YOUR AGITATION that not all the men are culprit and not all the women are devine angels.
JUST OBSERVE THIS WORLD WITHOUT BIAS AND BEING PREJUDICED TOWARDS MEN YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED TO KNOW THAT IN OUR SOCIETY THERE ARE MANY MEN WHO ARE GOOD AND MANY GIRLS ARE BAD.
alex
ReplyDeletei said nothing about your first comment in my reply
i merely told you that my post has links
where instead od discussion the comemtns are ont he womans body and looks
so my question is "why when we discuss we need to diver the discussion to a womans body and clothes. "
please see the links in the given post
about what all you are writing i have no comments to make because they are out of context with this post
rachna
ReplyDeletewhatever i said is not in any context it was just a basic information on two genders. actually what i understand now is that you are asking that why any discussion with a woman ends with the body and the beauty of the woman
it means you are asking about the men using blogs. actually rachna you will have to explore the basic structure of the society again to know the root cause of this problem. there are many men in our society who is not free from the so called male ego. they just can not bear the bitter truth that nowdays woman are not as they were centuries ago. they have their self identity, pride, avenues, prospects and above all the voice. the voice against all the evils of the society. now they are capable enough to decide their own destiny and they are not dependant on the men for the path of their destiny. they welcome the good, just, sincere, unbiased suggestion from their male counterparts if those suggestions are unbiased, right, just and friendly.
i have many female friends as well and our discussion are really beyond the pre dominance of male female concepts. we just discuss various issues as just human beings irrespective of our gender.
so i can tell you that the male members of our society, indian society in particular, who never get the opprtunity of free and fair interaction with females have many complexes. they just dont digest this situation that females are also human beings, men and women can just be friends. so they try to steal opportunities to humiliate females for which they have devised many ways such as eve teasing, writing obscene thing on railway toilets or walls, take the mean advantage of crowds, making anonymous indecent calls, incest, spreading rumors about the females who never bow to their plays etc. etc.
the latest of them is to use foul and indecent language for females on the blog. but rachna dont worry about these inhuman members of human society as they will remain as they are until and unless their breed is not instinct.
better you me and all the concerned humans must see the brighter side of the society. we must appreciate that more and more males are coming who not only give due respect to their spouse but also you will find their role in the family is quite different than it was centuries back. we must hope that after some years the females will be free, not not in the sense of misinterpretation but free from the social restrictions, free from male bias, free from the lack of opportunity, free from the curse of unequality so that they will not require any sympathy but just right of equality.
i am very much impresssed with the role of females in shaping the life of human beings, bearing tough responsibility of family and society and i respect all the images of females be it of mother, sister, wife, daughter or friend. without balanced male and female the society can not excell.
i hope now you must have got my point and you must understand that my views were limited to the title only. now you must also got the answer of your question. regards
but rachna dont worry about these inhuman members of human society as they will remain as they are until and unless their breed is not instinct.
ReplyDeleteTHANKS ALEX I AM SURE THIS MAKES US BOTH ON SAME UNDERSTANDING . WE ARE NOT HERE DISCUSSING ANY THING AGAINST MEN ,WE ARE AGAINST GENDER BAIS WHICH IS VERY RAMPANT INDIAN SOCIETY AND WHICH IS EVEN REFLECTING ON BLOGS
you must understand that my views were limited to the title only.
ALEX NBEXT WHEN YOU READ MY POSTS MAKE SURE TO SEE MORE THAN THE TITLE .
regds
@please go on given links and say this there also you people always try to see bias in writings on these blogs but you people never go and say a single word to any blogger who is using foul language for वूमन's body why ??
ReplyDeleteमैं जहाँ भी जिस ब्लाग पर भी नारी के प्रति अपशब्द देखता हूँ, अपनी प्रतिक्रिया जरूर देता हूँ. हो सकता है कि मैं किसी ब्लाग पर नहीं गया या किसी ब्लाग पर चूक हो गई हो. नारी के प्रति सम्मान व्यक्त कर के हम कोई एहसान नहीं करते वरन अपनी सभ्यता और संस्कृति के प्रति अपना दायित्व निभाते हैं. ऐसा करके हम ख़ुद अपना समान करते हैं.
@suresh ji
ReplyDeletephir aap ka koi kament in links par kyun nahin aayaa is baat ko rakhtey hue
dusrey link par kyaa aapko koi ease shabd nahin dikhey ??
“औरतों की दशा जितनी चिकित्सा विज्ञान ने बिगाड़ के रखी है उससे अधिक ज़िम्मेदार है मध्य वर्ग की सामाजिक विवशता यहाँ मध्यवर्ग को सरे आम अपमानित करना मेरा लक्ष्य बिलकुल नहीं है किंतु वास्तविकता यही है "पति बदलू कथानकों पे आधारित एकता कपूर छाप सीरियल देखतीं महिलाओं के ज़ेहन में घरेलू जिम्मेदारी के अलावा यह भी जिम्मेदारी है की अखबारों/संचार-माध्यमों में शाया आंकड़ों पे नज़र डाल लें किंतु जैसे ही "पुत्री वती भव: कहने में डर कैसा?"......
ReplyDeleteये सब शेष है सच यदि महिलाएं स्वयं लिंग परीक्षण के विरुद्ध एक जुट हो जाएँ तो यकीनन सारा परिदृश्य ही बदल जाएगा आप सोच रहें होंगे कि किन कारणों से ये ज़बाव देही मैं महिलाओं पे डाल रहा हूँ
pl. see the link
http://sanskaardhani.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_09.html
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ReplyDeletePlease go through my poem:
ReplyDelete"larhakiyaan chhoonaa chahtee hain aasmaan "
Book with the same title is ready to come in October.
--ashok lav
http://ashoklavmohaval.blogspot.com